Michelle Grattan does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment.
University of Canberra provides funding as a member of The Conversation AU.
Clare O'Neil is the Labor member for Hotham and with her colleague Tim Watts has written a book, Two Futures. The book discusses Australia in 2040 and what can be done in the short term to improve our future.
Clare sat down with Michelle Grattan to talk about the book, the ideas in it and the future of progressive politics in Australia.
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