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People sit on the ground and meditate. One t-shirt reads, "I sit down, I rise up.'
Protesters at Liberty Park on Oct. 16, 2011, Day 31 of Occupy Wall Street in New York. David Shankbone/The Occupy Wall Street Creative Commons Project, CC BY

How to deal with the pain of racism — and become a better advocate: Don’t Call Me Resilient EP 2

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The killing of George Floyd last May sparked a global protest movement calling for an end to racism and police brutality. But it also surfaced a lot of pain for those who deal with racism every day. Where do we go from here?

In Episode 2 of Don’t Call Me Resilient, the writer, activist and Zen priest Reverend angel Kyodo williams speaks about the pain of racism, and how she uses meditation to combat it — and become a stronger anti-racist activist in America today.

For a full transcript of this episode of Don’t Call Me Resilient, go here.

Every week, we highlight articles that drill down into the topics we discuss in the episode. This week, Karen Ragoonaden explains how mindfulness practices can help us navigate the unsettling realities of racial injustice.


Read more: How to be a mindful anti-racist


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This podcast is produced by The Conversation with a grant for Journalism Innovation by the Social Sciences and Humanities Research Council. It is hosted and produced by Vinita Srivastava. The producer is Nahid Buie. Production help from Ibrahim Daair, Anowa Quarcoo, Latifa Abdin, Vicky Mochama, Nehal El-Hadi. Sound engineer: Reza Dahya. Audience development: Lisa Varano. Theme music by Zaki Ibrahim. Logo by Zoe Jazz. Saniya Rashid is our research assistant supported by MITACS. Our CEO is Scott White. Thanks to Jennifer Moroz for her advice. Launch team: Imriel Morgan/Content is Queen.

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