The Labour leadership contest is discussed as though people inside and outside the party were a different species.
Despite attempts to curb union power, they still exert a huge amount of influence over the Labour Party.
Owen Smith, a relative newcomer to parliament, is taking on Jeremy Corbyn. But which one can fix their broken party?
They signed up in their droves to vote in the last leadership election, but will they back Corbyn again?
Whoever the next Labour leader is, they'll need to crack on with doing something if the party is to shed its increasingly toxic label.