If Nicola Roxon doesn’t believe in her own policy, why should we?

Earlier this month the Hon Nicola Roxon asked the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security (PJCIS) to conduct an inquiry into the Government’s proposals for a major revamp of Australia’s national security regime, including the long-term retention of information about SMS, voice calls…

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Attorney General Nicola Roxon appears to be in two minds over proposals to widen intelligence gathering powers. AAP/Lukas Koch

Earlier this month the Hon Nicola Roxon asked the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security (PJCIS) to conduct an inquiry into the Government’s proposals for a major revamp of Australia’s national security regime, including the long-term retention of information about SMS, voice calls, web searches and internet downloads.

The terms of reference and accompanying discussion paper for the inquiry featured stronger powers for the Australian Security Intelligence Agency (ASIO) and a “one step forward, two steps backwards” proposal involving fewer government bodies directly accessing private information but more being able to share. The proposals also featured mandatory retention by telecommunication providers – and presumably internet hosts and social network services such as Facebook – of “traffic” data for a period of two years.

The data would identify that communication had taken place (for example that an SMS had been sent from a specific number to another number at a particular time and place or that an ISP customer had visited a specific site) but would not include the content of the communication such as a transcript of what was said during a conversation. Building a “mosaic” does, however, offer a picture of relationships and activities and it is accordingly sought by bodies that range from police to the ATO and Centrelink.

The past decade has seen a succession of proposals for business to retain all traffic data for a period of two, five or seven years in a form that is readily searchable by a range of law enforcement and national security agencies. One of the more absurdist proposals of the late 1990s saw the Australian Federal Police request weekly or monthly printouts of all traffic. This was rebuffed by leading telcos with a simple question: where did the AFP propose to park the semi-trailers that would be needed to deliver the tonnes of paper each month? Traffic data retention has not found favour with several parliamentary committees and has been damned by a range of legal and industry bodies. Unfortunately, like the undead, it persists in reappearing when governments want to seem strong.

Do intelligence services really need access to data like personal Facebook pages? AAP Image/Tracey Nearmy

Under the heading “Roxon doubts over security plans to store web history” the Attorney-General was quoted on Friday as stating that “the case has yet to be made” for retention.

Roxon reportedly acknowledged the financial and privacy costs of such a scheme, commenting that she had some sympathy for the view of national security agencies but is “not yet convinced that the cost and the return – the cost both to industry and the [civil liberties] cost to individuals – that we’ve made the case for what it is that people use in a way that benefits our national security”.

If the Attorney-General is not persuaded of the merits of her proposal, at a time when she has recently claimed to be strengthening the national Privacy Act, why should we support a major erosion of the Australian privacy regime?

If she does not regard the proposal as convincing, why was the time allowed for public comments so short? Speed-dating may be fashionable but speed-policy making is abhorrent in a liberal democratic state. It is particularly abhorrent given the lack of rigour in the discussion paper, replete with statistics that bear no relationship whatsoever to the proposals. (Recitation of the number of homicides and assaults is irrelevant, given that no Australians have been clubbed to death with mobile phones or USB sticks.)

One answer may come from comments by retention-advocate Neil Gaughan of the Australian Federal Police High Tech Crime Centre. He is reported as saying that “if we don’t have a data retention regime in place we will not be able to commence an investigation in the first place” and that opposition to retention in Germany has left the German federal police agency a laughing stock. That claim appears to be inconsistent with the fact that German law enforcement agencies are still obtaining warrants, prosecuting alleged offenders and securing convictions. (Laughter is more likely to come from misbehaviour by keystone spooks.)

We should not confuse bureaucratic convenience with a fundamental need or allow the laudable enthusiasm of law enforcement personnel to override concerns regarding civil liberties and regulatory burdens. Several years ago the Law Institute of Victoria commented that neither government nor community would tolerate proposals to place telephone intercepts on all phone lines in Australia and record all conversations, or to open all mail, in case such information may be of use to law enforcement agencies. Such proposals would be unacceptable in a democratic society. There is no demonstrable reason why internet communications should be treated differently to other communications.

Contrary to utopians such as Julian Assange, there is a place for secrecy in national security. But we need to be able to trust the spooks and police. Proposals that are vague, extraordinary and unsubstantiated do not induce trust. Neither does an Attorney-General who confuses kite-flying with an own goal.

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  1. Ruth Townsend

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    Despite the very serious concerns raised in this article, it did make me smile. Well written. Thanks Bruce!

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  2. Shane Bryan

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    The only surprise here is that there wasn't a special clause included, excluding the internet and phone accounts of politicians. Apparantly they're above the rest of us and never take part in criminal or fraudulent activities. *cough* CabCharge *cough*

    Seriously for a second though, if there is a terrorist cell sending information to its members through an Australian ISP, if that individual has any tech knowledge, all ASIO will find is the connection from their home, through the ISP, out to an…

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    1. William Bruce

      Artist

      In reply to Shane Bryan

      The thing is who has access to this info......who gets prosecuted?
      AND what about protecting whistleblowers where it's reasonable that the public is informed....

      Is there ANY point in all this?...If they want to stop terrorism will someone please tell me why not just stop the foreign military occupations, meddling & trade sanctions?
      ....and of course tell Israel Govt (& their collaborators) to stop killing people & stealing their property or .....or no more dosh, travel & trade & scrap these…

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    2. Shane Bryan

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      In reply to William Bruce

      One would assume that the ISP information would only be accessed by a law enforcement agency, with a court order.

      But yes, in reality - we know that wouldn't be the case. ASIO and other security agencies are still ringing the 9-11 bell loud and hard saying that this is all for the 'greater good' even though if there was a risk of some terrorist act, these powers wouldn't do anything to stop it anyway.

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    3. William Bruce

      Artist

      In reply to Shane Bryan

      Thanks Shane...a trouble shared is a burden lightened.

      And now, I think I read that Roxon et al is going to give the FBI shared access to everything too??.....Will this be reciprocated?

      Could this be Treason or what?

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    4. Shane Bryan

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      In reply to William Bruce

      Sending personal information offshore about private citizens... not to be alarmist, but any individual (politician or private citizen) contemplating such things needs to be dragged into the street and pelted with cabbages and rotting fruit of many kinds.

      We saw the outrage recently when there was merely the possibility that Telstra had done it.. [http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2012/s3533633.htm] so for it to even be contemplated, even under the interests of "national security" is nothing short of an elected official selling out and misrepresenting the needs of the people they've been elected to represent.

      Treasonous behaviour though? Well the more I think of it, I don't think it's a stretch to classify it as such.

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    5. Emma Anderson

      Artist and Science Junkie

      In reply to Shane Bryan

      Yet you're logged in via Facebook

      No offense mate but as rubbish as these new data-retention laws, it just grants the AU government access to data about you the US government had the moment you first logged in.

      Two wrongs don't make a right though

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  3. Filth E. Seed

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    Such extraordinary powers as we Australians now confront were previously employed by some of the greats. The cosy relationship between the Chilean telephone exchange and Pinochet's thugs springs to mind. If there's scope for the misuse of DNA material. which there is, how on Earth would the vexed issue of interpersonal e-communications be guaranteed to be safeguarded and by who? The more we allow the hair-brained paranoia of the AFP &/or ASIO and our pollies a grip the more our fragile democracy stands threatened. It stuns one to recall that the 'age of the spy' was all but over prior to Bush's brutish reign. Now it would seem the spooks are back in force and are being heeded over the people.

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  4. Peter Ormonde

    Peter Ormonde is a Friend of The Conversation.

    Farmer

    Good piece and a good question.

    Who guards the guards? The logic of the scrutinisers seems to echo the thinking of the last Cold War escapade - we had to destroy the village in order to save it. That democracy is so important and special that it can only be protected by secrecy and surveillance.

    It is by no means coincidental that Howard's senior advisor on security issues was one Ian Metcalfe, former principal private secretary to Phillip Ruddock. Metcalfe went on from advising on spookery…

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    1. Shane Bryan

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      In reply to Peter Ormonde

      Interestingly Mike, Parliament’s "Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security" which outlined all these proposals has Phillip Ruddock on it (deputy chair).

      Even more interestingly, the proposals put forward by this committee match the proposals sent by Roxon. When it comes to these sorts of things, that cannot be a mere coincidence.

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  5. lucian weyland

    One who serves the people

    Ms Roxon should also listen to the Iindigenous Australians and eminent xperts such as Rex Wild QC ( author of Little Children are Sacred Report), Sir Willam Dean AC KBE, Professor Patrick Dodson, and Professor James Anaya (Special Rapporteur on situation of human rights of Indigenous people) and see the intervention as a hideous racist welfare scheme that hinders the people that it is supposedly designed to assist.

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    1. Shane Bryan

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      In reply to lucian weyland

      Maybe now after your rant, you might like to shed some light on how this is even remotely relevent to the article?

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    2. Emma Anderson

      Artist and Science Junkie

      In reply to Shane Bryan

      True that Shane and I'm looking forward to Lucien's reply but I'm too much of a political loudmouth to not weigh in right now.

      It's pretty straightforward. The whole data rentention/security thing reeks of political double-speak, just like with the intervention.

      They'll talk about protecting this that and the other but really it's about maintaining the status quo and their own interests, as it always bloody was.

      Good old fashioned hegemony "we're fighting the visigoths for the good of the roman people, here's some bread and a gladiator (*cough* olympics *cough*)" but only the patricians got the gold/land and meanwhile any one of the romans, and visigoths, could be stabbed on the battlefield.

      Same ol same ol

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  6. William Bruce

    Artist

    BRUCE ARNOLD how can you say..."Contrary to utopians such as Julian Assange, there is a place for secrecy in national security."?
    Why did you write this? Smear?

    Can you imagine there is a WORLD of difference between important "legitimate security secrecy" and possibly the worst war criminals on earth LEGALY hiding behind "a secrecy system" ...& MIA & others "stealing" Trillions?

    Seems OBVIOUS Assange, along with many others, have NEVER aimed to "breach" justifiable secrecy but have aimed to…

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