The “reasonable person” would agree that disaster risk is best avoided. Under a changing climate, how exposed people are to risk and how socially and physically vulnerable they are affects how often disasters may happen. The more we know about risk, the better we can avoid it.
The recently released IPCC Special Report on Managing the Risks of Extreme Events and Disasters to Advance Climate Change Adaptation Summary for Policymakers (IPCC SREX SPM) assesses adaptation measures to reduce disasters and resilience – the ability to bounce back after an event. In the main, reporting of the SREX has concentrated on what’s known about climate extremes and their relationship to disaster, and the management of disaster risk under a changing climate.
But in the articles they have published on the SREX SPM, The Australian newspaper has concentrated instead on uncertainty.
Graham Lloyd, The Australian’s environment reporter, said:
Widely-held assumptions that climate change is responsible for an upsurge in extreme drought, flood and storm events are not supported by a landmark review of the science.
And a clear climate change signal would not be evident for decades because of natural weather variability.
Despite the uncertainties, politicians – including US President Barack Obama in his address to federal parliament yesterday – continue to link major weather events directly to climate change. Greens leader Bob Brown yesterday highlighted Mr Obama’s climate change comments and said the extreme weather impacts were “not just coming, they are happening”.

But what did Obama actually say? He said:
This includes the clean energy that creates green jobs and combats climate change, which cannot be denied.
We see it in the stronger fires, the devastating floods and the Pacific islands confronting rising seas.
And as countries with large carbon footprints, the United States and Australia have a special responsibility to lead.
President Obama referenced fires, floods and rising seas. Senator Brown endorsed those comments. Lloyd focuses on extreme drought, floods and storm events as being uncertain and unattributable to human agency.
This is what the SREX actually said:
There is evidence from observations gathered since 1950 of change in some extremes. Confidence in observed changes in extremes depends on the quality and quantity of data and the availability of studies analyzing these data, which vary across regions and for different extremes.
Assigning “low confidence” in observed changes of a specific extreme on regional or global scales neither implies nor excludes the possibility of changes in this extreme [my emphasis]. Extreme events are rare which means there are few data available to make assessments regarding changes in their frequency or intensity. The more rare the event the more difficult it is to identify long-term changes.
Global-scale trends in a specific extreme may be either more reliable (eg, for temperature extremes) or less reliable (eg, for droughts) than some regional-scale trends, depending on the geographical uniformity of the trends in the specific extreme.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence.
Uncertainty management in the SREX describes likelihood and confidence.
Likelihood is the probability that a statement will be true or that a predicted set of events may happen.
Confidence concerns evidence (limited, medium or robust) and agreement (low, medium or high). Two sets of confidence statements are delivered. One set explicitly reflects evidence–agreement statements. The other is on a scale of very low, low, medium, high, very high. These are subjective and variable.
In summary, the Special Report says this about observed changes:
It is very likely (90-100%) warm days and nights are increasing. Cool days and nights are decreasing globally with high confidence in Europe, North America and Australia. In other regions confidence is lower due to data limitations.

Statistically significant trends in heavy precipitation events in some regions are likely (66-100%) and there are more regions where such trends have occurred than not.
Some areas of the world have experienced more intense and longer droughts (medium confidence), but other areas have experienced fewer. There is limited-to-medium evidence on flooding because of limited data and land-use influences on flooding behaviour.
Changes in tropical cyclones are given low confidence but poleward shifts in mid-latitude storm tracks have been observed with medium confidence.
Attribution of those changes to a human influence via greenhouse-induced climate change is less certain than direct observation. Anthropogenic influences on temperature effects and coastal extremes are likely (66-100%). There is medium confidence of a human influence on extreme precipitation at the global scale. Tropical cyclone attribution is given low confidence and changes at the global scale are unattributed.
This uncertainty statement in the SREX was highlighted by The Australian:
Projected changes in climate extremes under different emissions scenarios generally do not strongly diverge in the coming two to three decades, but these signals are relatively small compared to natural climate variability over this time frame. Even the sign of projected changes in some climate extremes over this time frame is uncertain.
This is what the SREX also said about future changes:
- Virtually certain: heat extremes increase and cool extremes decrease.
- Very likely: heat waves increase over most land areas, extreme high water levels occur with sea level rise.
- Likely: increases in precipitation over some land areas (medium confidence that they may also accompany a mean precipitation decrease in some areas), tropical cyclone mean wind speed will increase but numbers remain unchanged or decrease.
- High confidence: coastal inundation, instability in mountain regions including landslides.
- Medium confidence: extra tropical cyclones will decrease, droughts will intensify in some regions, local flooding in some regions.
- Low confidence: tornados, hail, droughts in some regions where rainfall signal is uncertain, flooding in specific regions, the direction of climate variability.
Disaster risks have two levels of attribution. The first level separates the physical hazard from the exposure of people and places, and their underlying social and physical vulnerability. The second concerns the anthropogenic contribution to changing extremes that influence those physical hazards.
These are difficult to disentangle. Local interactions between society and environment make conclusions at the regional and global scale even more difficult.
Sometimes limited confidence comes from a lack of data, at other times from uncertainty in drivers of change and yet other times from a lack of scientific knowledge.

The Special Report concludes that most of the observed increase in economic damage is because people and infrastructure are living in harm’s way, rather than because of changing climate extremes. It does not, however, discount changes in those extremes.
The cycle of scientific research, publication and assessment means that events occurring over the past two years will not be included in the report. This evidence is rapidly mounting. These results are from statistical tests I’ve run over the past year or so:
- Annual rainfall in eastern Australia has increased by 14% with respect to the El Niño-Southern Oscillation Index from 1973–2010 compared to 1900–1972.
- Increases in days per year over 35°C and 40°C in the period 1997–2011 compared to 1973–1996 at Laverton, Victoria (non-urban high quality station close to Melbourne) are significant at the 5% level.
- Days of high fire danger index or above (also at Laverton, which has good wind records) have increased by 1996/7–2009/10 compared to 1972/73–1995/96 by 38% from 33 to 45. This change is significant to the 1% level. Recent catastrophic fires have led to the addition of a catastrophic category to the fire danger ratings.
The large floods in northern Victoria summer 2011 were caused by natural climate variability, but the contributing spring and summer rainfall was more than 200 mm wetter than predicted by a simple statistical model. Because such events occur about every decade or so, it would take decades before a robust signal could emerge within the statistics.
The alternative is to run a set of model experiments, a time-consuming and difficult task. The rainfall originated from warmer tropical waters off north-western Australia, which in summer 2011 was at record levels. Are we willing to bet that a warmer ocean and atmosphere is not contributing to these conditions? It’s possible of course, but theory would support the opposite conclusion.
The findings of the SREX SPM are complex. Jean Palutikov of the National Climate Change Adaptation Research Facility said that they were no surprise to anyone who is familiar with climate science. And they are not. Both Obama’s and Brown’s comments can be justified by the SREX SPM, but Lloyd’s spin cannot.
On climate change, The Australian is behaving like the media equivalent of a fog machine. Its unreliable reporting should be avoided by those with an interest in factual scientific information.
Andrew Glikson
Earth and paleo-climate scientist at Australian National University
The new IPCC-2011-AR5 draft report projecting extreme weather events states:
"Models project substantial warming in temperature extremes by the end of the 21st century. It is virtually certain that increases in the frequency and magnitude of warm daily temperature extremes and decreases in cold extremes will occur in the 21st century on the global scale. It is very likely that the length, frequency and/or intensity of warm spells, or heat waves, will increase over most land areas. Based on the…
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Reaing the IPCC report, I get the impression that they are struggling to show any meaningful change in extreme weather events. It's full of "likely", "very likely", "low to medium confidence" (see page 5). It even talks about "likely that the frequency of tropical cyclones will either decrease or remain essentially unchanged."
"Likely" is defined as 66 - 100% probability. This doesn't encourage me much. Normally, unless I'm seeing at least 90% probability, I wouldn't take much notice. Given the…
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B.Sc, GDipAppSci, MEnvSc, Environmental Planner
"ormally, unless I'm seeing at least 90% probability, I wouldn't take much notice. "
And you're an engineer?
Also, what is this "climategate 2"?
you do realise that eight independent investigations into the so-called "climategate" have consistently shown no inappropriate behaviour, and that outputs from the relevant scientific groups have not been manipulated?
Ross James
Engineer
Yes, an engineer, and my limited publications in scientific journals of this nature have been based on at least 90% probability, or I don't submit. The probabilities talked about here, in view of the confounding circumstances, don't give me much confidence.
You can be forgiven about not knowing about Climategate 2 - it only happened a few hours ago. You've probably read about it by now. I know about the original climategate investigations, and the results. I wonder if they can pull it off again this time?
Rob Crowther
Architectural Draftsman
There are some statistical methods that allow you to make sense of low probabilities and weak trends.
If you are limiting yourself to 90% then you are ignoring such methods.
That is not the issue though. How much of modern mathematics are you washing aside and therefore how much better could you be if you accepted them?
Ross James
Engineer
I agree that there are circumstances when low probability can still indicate meaningful trends, for example when limited data is available, as an early indicator.
Getting back to this report, I think it unlikely that the 0.7 degC increase over the past 160 years would result in significant detectable changes in extreme weather events. Going back, say 100 - 160 years ago, the data from that time would be pretty unreliable. Add to that the confounding from natural variations. I haven't read the report in full detail yet, but it looks to me, reading between the lines, that they have little, if any evidence that supports the hypothesis of increased frequency or magnitude of extreme weather events due to anthropogenic warming.
Mike Hansen
Mr
Hi Ross.
You say "unless I'm seeing at least 90% probability, I wouldn't take much notice."
So what you are saying is that if a bridge for example that you were working on had an 80% probability of collapsing, you would not be concerned.
If you really are an engineer, could you please provide a list of any public works that you have been involved with so I can avoid them.
Ross James
Engineer
Mike - put it another way. If a bridge had a less than a 90% chance of holding the weight of my car when I cross, would I risk it?
I'm a chemical engineer, not construction. My published research has mainly involved comparison of chemical analytical methods.
This is a summary for policy makers. The whole world economy is changing and billions of dollars spent based on these reports, while people are dying from lack of food and medical attention. I would like better than "it's likely" and 60% probability. If that's the best we have after billions in research dollars, hopefully you'll forgive my lack of excitement.
Mike Hansen
Mr
Ross - people are dying in Thailand because of flooding. Bangkok, a city of 9 million people has been devastated by floods. Before that Pakistan. The either deal with climate change or deal with world poverty argument is pretty weak. Unfortunately it is the poor who are the most likely to be affected by climate change.
What you are suggesting is despite the warnings of climate scientists, we should continue our live experiment with the atmosphere on the only earth we have until we can reach 90% certainty that these climate events are caused by global warming.
We would be 90% certain but it would be too late to do anything about it.
Sorry but that is not a policy that I am able to support.
Andrew Glikson
Earth and paleo-climate scientist at Australian National University
Because climate science is a complex multidisciplinary field, those who promote the open-ended use of the atmosphere as a sewrage for carbon gases --- despite stern warnings on the part of the world's climate research organizations, the world's academies of science and the bulk of the peer review literature --- can be compared to those who, for example:
1. Without medical surgery training, enters an operation theatre trying to give the surgeons advice as to how to save a patient.
2. Without a pilot license or training, enters a cockpit of a plane in the middle of a storm giving gratuitous advice to the pilots.
3. Without engineering degree and training advise engineers how to construct a bridge.
Nor do they take the precautionary and insurance principles into account.
John C
logged in via email @gmail.com
Roger. Thanks very much.
The information here, compared to that pencilled in by The Australian newspaper, is worth the price of admission alone.
Paul Richards
Paul Richards is a Friend of The Conversation.
When the world's underwriters collectively change their stance and lighten their premiums, it will be worth noting. Nothing focuses reality like money.
Mark Harrigan
Dr
Paul - assuming you meant "tighten" and not "lighten"? They have and they are - look up Munich Re, one of theworld's largest re-insurers and have adjusted their premiums upwards to reflect increased risk
Paul Richards
Paul Richards is a Friend of The Conversation.
Mark - I meant, that premium are heavier now and on an exponential climb.
As you know the actuaries are well respected mathematicians, the basis of their work is the analysis of probabile outcomes and the quality of this is judged on profitability.
No insurance company will ever miss an opportunity to make a profit ergo; the projected outcomes on global warming are correct, as premium are increasing.
So I trust the actuarial analysis of the greater body of scientific work on GCC more than any fringe science debate against it.
Mark Harrigan
Dr
Thanks for that claification Paul - me too
Ross James
Engineer
Mark, you refer to "weight of evidence". The main issue isn't whether we have global warming. It's generally agreed that there's been about 0.7 degC increase over the past 160 years (as expected as we come out of the Little Ice Age). Nor is CO2 being a greenhouse gas disputed (though there is doubt over it's degree of influence as concentration increases - expected to be about 1.2 degC).
The real issue is the hypothesis that a small amount of possible warming from increased CO2 will lead to positive…
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Dr
A number of issues with your statements Ross.
Going back 160 years is not the relevant period. We need to look at the period only for which it is claimed that GHG (in particular CO2) forcing is relevant and other powerful factors (most particularly Solar irradiance) can be ruled out. Generally accepted that the climate was fairly stable from about the mid 1800's until about 1920 - then a period of warming generally attirbutable solar factors (see a great graph here http://www.skepticalscience…
Read moreDoug Cotton
IT Manager
On this* thread Dr Harrigan posted ..
"What matters is INCREASING GHGs leading to increasing thermal energy being retained, creating a higher thermal equilibrium and hence higher temperatures."
Anyone with a bit of physics to their name would see the fallacy in this statement.
It's rather like saying that if your electric jug applies a constant 2400 watts to a quantity of water it won't boil. Apparently Dr Harrigan does not think that retaining a fixed amount of thermal energy each month or whatever will cause warming. I wonder where that accumulated thermal energy ends up, Dr Harrigan?
So let me ask, is anyone with a physics degree prepared to respond here and confirm that Dr Harrigan's statement is correct and supported by peer-reviewed papers?
I'm sure others can see that Dr Harrigan's posts are little but platitudinous ponderosity and thrasonical bombast.
* http://theconversation.edu.au/there-is-a-real-climategate-out-there-4428#comments
Mark Harrigan
Dr
I can see Doug Cotton still totally fails to understand the very basic physics of how GHGs act - even though everyone else gets it.
Here's just one paper that spells out very well that it is increasing levels of GHGs that produce higher temperatures - even showing the lagging effect before a new (higher) thermal equilibrium is reached when you increase the GHG's levels.
http://eprints.whiterose.ac.uk/43307/2/JGR_2009JD012105%5B1%5D.pdf
It Illustrates the matter beautifully in Figure 1 - showing…
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IT Manager
So in Dr Harrigan's world carbon dioxide emits radiation back to Earth (which can easily be detected) - yes I agree so far - but he says the other 50% does not get detected heading to space at the TOA.
He confuses absorbed wavelengths with emitted ones. Of course the wavelengths which CO2 absorb are missing at TOA. GHG molecules absorb nearly all the radiation which comes from the surface.
Doug Cotton
IT Manager
Yes, yes, anyone can draw a nice diagram based on the false assumption that all of over 30 degrees of warming is due to carbon dioxide and none to water vapour, even though water vapour (on average) has a slightly greater effect than all the carbon dioxide. And then of course the compensating cooling effect of each is disregarded. The calculations also omit the huge amount of extra energy that would be required to raise the sub-surface temperatures all the way back to the core so that the plot…
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Dr
Doug Cotton is free to publish in the scientific literature his refutation of the Murphy paper to which I provided a link.
The fact that this paper, along with countless others and the satellite evidence provide clear and unequivocal evidence of the greenhouse effect, its impact in maintaining the planet at a heigher thermal equilibirum than it woudl otherwise have, and the unambiguous science showing that increasing GHGs mean higher tehrmal equilbium - is apparently beyond his understanding.
His silly analogy of the kettle boiling water which has been totally demolished 9and for which he has no asnwer) demonstrated the level of his understanding of real physics - which is to say - none.
In the meantime we can safely dismiss his rants as that of an ill informed non science denier who waves his hands a lot and prattles science sounding sentences but has no evidence or sound science to back his claims.
He trolls all over the converdation repeating this sort of rubbish. It's a joke.
Mark Harrigan
Dr
Doug Cotton claims that CO2 absorbs sigbnificant energy from the surrounding atmosphere (patently false) which it then radiates away - contributing to cooling.
The fact that this is unsupported by any evidnece or science eludes him.
But - who knows - maybe he has disocered something?
Tell me - Mr Cotton, at what wavelenghts, exactly, does CO2 emit this "cooling radiation" and why has it not been detected?
Doug Cotton
IT Manager
The "kettle boiling water" only seems "silly" when Dr Harrigan turns it into a rainwater tank or similar. But even the rain water tank would boil if it were perfectly insulated along the lines of a huge vacuum flask, for example.
If the atmosphere were only pure oxygen and nitrogen, it would indeed be very well insulated because these molecules do not radiate at atmospheric temperatures. Its "boiling point" would be several hundred degrees when the O2 and N2 start to radiate a little. Such is…
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IT Manager
PS My outdoor spa runs off a normal 10 amp (2400W power point) with an element similar to an electric jug. It is reasonably well insulated, so it can be set to a maximum of 42 deg.C, but even that is only really limited by safety concerns I suspect.
Doug Cotton
IT Manager
Keep laughing, Dr Harrigan as the temperatures fall http://theconversation.homestead.com/14000.jpg
Mark Harrigan
Dr
Laughable idiocy. 2011 was the 10th warmest on record and the warmest EVER during a La Nina (known for it's cooling effects). The 17 year moving average temperature data (and the science says a minimum of 17 years is required to remove the "noise" from natural varaitions due to effects from la Nina ) shows unabted warming.
Doug Cotton has no scientific basis for his silly statements
Mark Harrigan
Dr
Doug Cotton's knowledge of science is so poor that he fails to understand even the basics.
If the atmosphere were pure nitrogen and oxygen the earth would have ZERO "insulation". he is an utter dolt where the science is concerned.
His own "logic" is laughably inconsistent.
If GHGs produced both warming and colling to the same extent the net effect would be zero - and the surface themperaure of the earth would MINUS 18 degrees centigrade.
The rest of his laughably silly post (and John Nicol's…
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IT Manager
Actually, ENSO is a RESPONSE to climate change, not a cause - but the reasons would take too long to explain and you wouldn't understand anyway. Take the last 17 years by all means and extrapolate the trend to 2100. Do it yourself as you won't believe that it projects to less than one degree warming by then. As I have said many times, if you take the last 60 years data for sea surface temperatures you'll see a 0.6 degree rise. Big deal! http://theconversation.homestead.com/60years.jpg
Now, you answer one question ...
Given (a) the amount of thermal energy which typical energy diagrams show transferred to the atmosphere from the surface in ways other than radiation + (b) that energy which is shown as absorbed by the atmosphere direct from incoming solar radiation, and given (c) the amount of radiation to space that is from the atmosphere, then how does the energy from (a)+(b) get radiated as (c) ?
Doug Cotton
IT Manager
And guess where you'll find a nice 17 year trend since late 1994? Just add the latest data, bearing in mind 2011 is cooler then 2010 and what do we see from none other than Kevin trenberth himself lifted straight from your beloved SkS site ....
http://climate-change-theory.com
Now I await your reasonable attempt to answer the above question about (a)+(b) and (c)
Mark Harrigan
Dr
Again Doug Cotton shows his ignorance. ENSO conditions have occurred at two- to seven year intervals for at least the past 300 years, but most of them have been weak - what climate change is doing is amplifying the El Nino's.
The rest of his post is the urusal Tiresome Repeats of Limited Lucidity comments that have been refuted countless times. He should study the earths energy budget -
For the 2000 - 2004 period the rough energy budget balance is as follows:
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Mark Harrigan
Dr
I dont reply to trolls I refute them. That has been done - again and again.
Doug Cotton
IT Manager
Dr Harrigan repeats the pseudo-science used by climatologists that assumes the intermediate interface of the surface and the atmosphere will radiate as if it were a blackbody, even though it is surrounded by an atmosphere in which it takes a finite time for thermal energy to rise by convection, and even though the atmosphere butting up against the surface is very close to the same temperature, thus significantly reducing radiation below that of a blackbody.
Blackbody calculations should only be…
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IT Manager
Yes, you can see exactly how much the ENSO cycle affects the trend in Trenberth's plot http://climate-change-theory.com/seasurface.jpg
Doug Cotton
IT Manager
Some of the methods which are "spinning uncertainty" involve twisting words and totally overlooking or failing to understand key points. An example is Chris's reply to my post on the "Real Climategate" thread - which warrants a brief response.
1. I accept that referring to "temperature" of individual molecules was terminology better suited for "lay" readers. It should have been obvious that I was talking about energy. My whole discussion centred on the individual molecules, so "average temperatures…
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Dr
Brief response?? Complete piffle.
There is NO radiation peak at 15 microns (or anywhere else) in the blackbody spectrum of thermally radiated IR coming FROM the planet.
There are only yawning reductions in the normal blackbody curve at the wavelenghs associated with absortion by GHG's - and you can see the corresponding influx of IR at the surface looking up (and the Sun doesn't produce IR) showing that backreflect thermal IR which contributed to maintaining a higher surface temperature than there…
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