Media puts its Bigfoot in it Yeti again: it’s abominable

What ever happened to quality science reporting in the mainstream media? Why do so many journalists seem to simply accept press releases as fact? Are qualifications no longer relevant when it comes to journalistic scrutiny of science? Perhaps there’s no longer any scrutiny? Let’s be clear: there is NO…

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What ever happened to quality science reporting in the mainstream media? Why do so many journalists seem to simply accept press releases as fact? Are qualifications no longer relevant when it comes to journalistic scrutiny of science? Perhaps there’s no longer any scrutiny? Let’s be clear: there is NO Yeti!

The people claiming there is such a creature have no idea about science or the evidence that would be needed to convince scientists that a Yeti, or Bigfoot, or Yowie, or what ever you call it, exists!

This week I learned from Sydney’s Daily Telegraph, the ABC, the UK’s Mail and Telegraph newspapers and the Huffington Post (no less) that a Russian scientist is to be supported in his Bigfoot-hunting efforts by an international team specialising in human evolution.

I checked my calendar to see if it was April 1, and not October 6, as I had (mistakenly) thought. No, October. This story must be real. Not again, I thought.

The 82-year-old Russian heading the project, Igor Burstev – apparently “Dr” Burstev – has convinced himself, local authorities, and apparently plenty of journalists, that the Yeti is real. Burstev even claims the Yeti is a relic population of Neandertals.

And a number of sometimes quite respectable news outlets have been sucked in with this nonsense.

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Who are these “international scientists” who are going to find the Yeti? We have been given no names, nor credentials, nor institutions they belong to. I suspect, like so many of the so-called climate-change deniers, they are frauds.

Why the long feet?

Is there a chance the Yeti might exist? Yes, there’s a chance, just as with so many phenomena we scientists think about. It’s possible. From time to time, a new species of mammal, even primate, is described in some remote area largely unexplored by scientists.

But based on the evidence presented in favour of its existence, the Yeti looks like a very poor hoax to me. Why are there no proper photographs of this creature? Oh, of course – the people who have seen it were too scared to look away and pick up their cameras in case the Yeti disappeared from view.

All of the claimed photographs or video footage I have seen are completely bogus. I could do a better job myself with a gorilla costume from a party shop, a good camera, and photo-editing software.

The infamous Patterson-Gimlin “Bigfoot” footage from 1967.

Why do they always have ridiculously large footprints that look like some off-course camel train passed through snow-swept Siberia?

A few facts: the Neandertals, our closet evolutionary relative, with whom we shared an ancestor 400-500,000 years ago, went extinct 25-30,000 years ago.

They had a body mass of around 75 kilograms (on average) and stood about 162 centimetres tall (on average). We can estimate these things with good accuracy from their bones.

I’m about 75 kilograms, but a lot taller than 162 centimetres. Yet my foot is size eight, about average for an Australian male.

Why the big foot? Lack of imagination by the hoaxers, I suppose. Or lack of knowledge of human anatomy and the human fossil record, more likely.

Oh, and guys, they had five toes like we do, not four, as seems mostly to be the case in your fake photos. Try referring to a good anatomy textbook for starters.

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Interbreeding

When our ancestors left Africa, 60-70,000 years ago, they happily interbred with the Neandertals. In fact, all of us alive today whose ancestry is Asian, Aboriginal Australian, European, Pacific Islander or Native American, share DNA with them. Up to 6% of our DNA is in fact the result of our ancestors having shagged them!

Far from being bushy-haired, large-toothed, stoop-shouldered, and rather large-footed like the Yeti, Neandertals looked an awful lot like us. Probably not very hairy; certainly with small canine teeth; and hell, they even had nice posture – not like some creature that has spent his working life hunched over a computer writing about hare-brained nonsense like the existence of mythical beings living today in Siberia …

So I ask, where’s the evidence for living Neandertals? If anyone has it, we’d really love to see it. Forget those broken bits of fossil bones and teeth we anthropologists have to work with to study our evolution. We could do real biology! With living creatures!

No-one should be excused from the normal rigorous processes such as peer review scientists have to go through to get their research accepted.

Anyway, forget the hassles of convincing the real experts, go straight to the media – they’ll believe you!

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  1. Tommy Naff

    logged in via Facebook

    A good journalist will always research a topic thoroughly before writing about it. Your article is like the pot calling the kettle black...do some investigative research, and then see what you think. I would challenge you to do better with a gorilla suit and photo editing. You obviously have never met anyone who has had an encounter....

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  2. Paul Cropper

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    My first reaction on reading this was to pass it off as a lightweight diatribe by an author mistakenly convinced only scientists can undertake research of any value, and that anyone investigating ‘fringe’ subjects is automatically a crackpot. Only on reading it a second time did I realise that Mr. Curnoe’s rant was a solid example of the lack of journalistic standards he was railing against, and deserved a response.

    Lets first correct a few facts and misrepresentations. Mr Curnoe suggests the Russian…

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    1. Joel Courtney

      Technologist

      In reply to Paul Cropper

      Surely a little bit of research would yield that "Mr. Curnoe" is actually "Dr. Curnoe"?

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    2. Kissindra

      logged in via Twitter

      In reply to Paul Cropper

      looking into it since the 1950's and no credible proof has been found - yet you admonish people for not thinking it worth expensing time and energy on? Do you not think there might be a pretty good case for not thinking it WORTH spending further time/money on?

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  3. Mike Brett Wilson

    Mr

    Wow..at first I thought it was Aprils fools day..How many "journalists" would write with so many ad hominems and personal insults in one article.But then I realised it was just a "scientist" having a little rant..but then what sort of "scientist: would have to swing from this weird subject to a rant/link to "climate change deniers".
    Here is a link to another 30 thousand scientistswho question AGW..NOT CLIMATE CHANGE.
    http://www.petitionproject.org/
    How you dont get the difference between climate change and anthropomorphic climate change is stunning..or perhaps you do.. :)
    You should be happy..the tax/trading will make the weather better for all of us. :)
    And here is a link showing all the papers the MSM "forget" to mention refuting most of the tenants of AGW.
    http://www.c3headlines.com/predictionsforecasts/

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    1. Stephen Prowse

      CEO at Wound CRC

      In reply to Mike Brett Wilson

      I agree that there is an important and often ignored difference between climate change (which has happened/is happening) and the influence of human activity on climate (which is hypothesis). However I do not feel that that fact that 30,000 scientist have signed a petition makes any difference or adds to the debate on the existence of a yeti or AGW. Many scientists have signed a petition in support of creation science. The nonsense of this is illustrated by Project Steve
      http://ncse.com/taking-action/project-steve
      If members of the public or scientists hypothesise the existence of a yeti (or SETI) and want to search for evidence, good on them; that's how science works. Just so long as they do not use too much of my money as a taxpayer.

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    2. Mike Brett Wilson

      Mr

      In reply to Stephen Prowse

      quote"However I do not feel that that fact that 30,000 scientist have signed a petition makes any difference or adds to the debate on the existence of a yeti or AGW."

      I was being "ironic".
      But using a real example that the writer/ranter and yourself would be unaware of anyway. :)
      Most writers like this guy..( biologists are now experts on atmospherics??) always use argument from authority..have a look at his "arguments" related to AGW on the rest of the site..
      Not sure why he so angry though..
      But I am glad..by an extension of your own words..that no one can or will use arguments from authority on this site on anything(except AGW) which is different.
      Peace..

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    3. Michael J. I. Brown

      ARC Future Fellow and Senior Lecturer at Monash University

      In reply to Mike Brett Wilson

      I think Darren Cunroe's more general point is too much pseudo-science is getting reported uncritically by the media. It clearly bugs him that the media doesn't do trivial research to check the reliability of press releases, especially when extraordinary claims are made.

      Much of the pseudo-science is obvious to any scientist, irrespective of their field of expertise. You don't need to be a biologist to be suspicious of blurry photographs and dodgy looking footprints. Similarly, you don't need to be an atmospheric scientist to be suspicious of some climate "sceptics" who plot temperature from 1998 onwards, despite more data being readily available.

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  4. Michael Vagg

    Clinical Senior Lecturer at Deakin University School of Medicine & Pain Specialist at Barwon Health

    Not sure how climate change denial fits in, but it is very important to make a distinction between doing science and not doing science, whether you are an amateur or not. Paul Cropper points out that the Wildman phenomenon occurs in various areas around the world, but this is sociology, not zoology. Cryptozoology is a caricature of the scientific method, where beliefs and fascinating ideas take the place of scientific progress. Whether professional scientists or dedicated amateurs are involved, there…

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  5. Richard Chirgwin

    Analyst

    Thanks, Darren, in spite of the abuse you've copped.

    One of the things that has undermined public confidence in science is the willingness of media outlets to turn it into a sideshow.

    The editorial decision to elevate pseudo-science to apparently equal status with real science, purely on entertainment value, invites the public to think of the two as equivalent; the Yeti hunt is no different to climate science or (for that matter) astronomy.

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  6. Cathy Creswell

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    Melba Ketchum has been running analysis and DNA testing on hair and feces samples. It was hoped she would write a scientific paper of her findings. She hired a lawyer, split with one of her co-researchers and there has been some drama.

    But, another researcher has DNA samples of his own from a different source, and he is more credible. He is working out of a University, gets no money for this and will publish SOON. I hope next year. One of his samples is SALIVA from a source that has been feeding…

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  7. Michael Fitzpatrick

    logged in via Facebook

    Good work. you have certainly rattled the cages of the crypto loons.
    Like these ones.
    http://www.yowiehunters.net/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=3723
    A shame that they just dont quite get empirical science.
    If they can produce the evidence and it is worthy, then they will get treated a little more seriously. I hope they can, but I strongly doubt it. they are confirmation bias personified.

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  8. Oksanna Zoschenko

    logged in via Twitter

    Another 'science-by-invective' hatchet job for 'The Conversation'. Sort of kills the 'for curious minds' moniker on the homepage, but no surprise there.

    Cathy Creswell said: 'One very credible researcher has wisely suggested that women should be recruited for field work, as sasquatch is intimidated by males.'

    There are reports, stories if you like, about crypto-hominids being attracted to women...the three toed creature in the Boggy Creek stories is one example: http://www.archive.org/details

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    1. Michael Fitzpatrick

      logged in via Facebook

      In reply to Oksanna Zoschenko

      Does superstition extend to explaining the utter lack of any physical evidence to suggest there is a large uncatalogued primate at large , Oksanna?
      I think you might find that the phrase "wisdom concealed within superstition" is an oxymoronic contradiction in terms.

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  9. Oksanna Zoschenko

    logged in via Twitter

    It is not clear that the Yowie is a physical phenomena. The sulphurous smell and glowing eyes and reports - even (please don't laugh) of flying Yowies, suggest it might not be physical. On the other hand, some indigenous people insist they are physical beings. There is a possible explanation. Aboriginal myths from the Clarence River area are replete with fierce battles between the indigenous 'clever men' and the giant Duligahl, both of which were reputed to possess psychic powers. There is much…

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