Does it seem strange that we will enthusiastically kiss an attractive person’s mouth, with tongues intertwining and saliva going everywhere, but that we might wrinkle our nose up at the idea of using that same person’s toothbrush?
Our disgust response to other people’s bodily fluids (among other things) is thought to be an evolutionary adaptation for avoiding disease, but our most important evolutionary task – reproducing – involves exchanging bodily fluids in a pretty messy way.
This paradox is investigated in new research by Charmaine Borg and Peter de Jong at the University of Groningen, published yesterday in the open-access journal PLoS ONE.
Borg and de Jong wanted to know how we find sex so pleasurable despite it involving so much stuff that we tend to find disgusting in other contexts – stuff such as saliva, sweat, vaginal fluid, and semen.
One possibility is that being sexually aroused simply makes us less disgusted by the stuff that normally disgusts us. If this were true, a further question would be whether sexual arousal affects our disgust only for sex-related stuff or for all disgusting stuff.
To investigate these possibilities, Borg and de Jong randomly assigned 90 female volunteers into three separate groups. One group was shown a “female-friendly” erotic video, in order to sexually arouse the participants. As a control, another group watched an exciting video without sexual content (an extreme sports video), and a third group watched a video with no exciting or sexual content at all (a scenic train ride).
All participants were then asked to perform 16 tasks that would normally elicit a reaction of disgust. Some tasks were sex-related – such as lubricating a vibrator – and some were not – such as taking a sip of juice from a cup with an insect in it.
The researchers looked at how disgusted participants said they were by the idea of doing the task (self-report) and also at whether they ended up actually doing the task.
The first key result was that the sexually aroused group (i.e. those participants who had watched the porn) reported less disgust at the disgusting tasks, and more often actually completed them compared with the two control groups. This suggests that, indeed, being sexually aroused decreases our disgust sensitivity and allows us to do dirty things.
But does this lowering of our disgust sensitivity apply only to sex-related dirty things, or to dirty things in general?
Intriguingly, participants in the sexually aroused group were less disgusted by (and more willing to do) all sorts of disgust-eliciting tasks, not just sex-related ones. So sexually aroused participants were more likely to go through with lubricating a vibrator, but also drinking an insect-in-juice cocktail.
This study is fascinating and fun, and contributes to an explosion in interest and understanding regarding the mechanisms and functions of disgust. But the study might also have special relevance to the causes and consequences of sexual dysfunctions.
If sexual arousal decreases disgust and allows us to engage in the dirty business of sexual intimacy, what happens when sexual arousal decreases or disappears – due to anxiety or ageing, for instance?
Bruce Moon
Bystander!
Maybe we could sexually arouse our politicians when it comes to them voting for measures that enhance social tolerance, economic equality, quality educational standards and wealth redistribution.
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Now when the other half wants me to clean out the blocked dunny, or a similarly yuk job, I can use this research to suggest I need to watch erotica to enable the task to be done.
Cheers
Tim Scanlon
Debunker
So I should get aroused before cleaning the toilet, good to know.
Sue Ieraci
Public hospital clinician
But presumably you would need to be aroused BY the dunny.
Sue Ieraci
Public hospital clinician
No sorry - my mistake - generic arousal and insect-in-juice.
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Adam Richards
Teacher
Knowledge is never trivial.
David Collyer
logged in via Facebook
I am struck there is no word in the English language for 'vaginal fluid'.
John Harland
bicycle technician
It has plenty of synonyms. They are just not regarded as printable.
Michael Leonard Furtado
Doctor at University of Queensland
In which case, let's not be coy. 'Gizz' is one of them, surely. This is a serious and presumably adult website and I can't see our sisters objecting, while, let's face it, Sean must surely have his clever curmudgeonly say.
Lisa Ann Kelly
retired
@ Michael F. You're 0 for 2. It's spelled "jizz," and it means "cum, semen, ejaculate," and specifically refers to the male, never the female fluids.
As for my earlier comments and comments made in reply, I have had time to think more on this subject, and this is my conclusion: the word "disgust" is not warranted as a descriptor re: saliva, sweat, semen, or body odors.
I looked up the definition and synonyms for "disgust," and discovered I was correct in my original reaction to…
Read moreLisa Ann Kelly
retired
@ Michael F. Apologies. I discovered "jizz" can be spelled either way.
Sean Lamb
Science Denier
Now this is what I call a Conversation.
Linus Bowden
management consultant
Pussy juice.
Linus Bowden
management consultant
Lisa
I came across all this stuff studying udergrad Psychology. While I agree that a lot of contemporary 'research' in Social Psychology is politically-correct nonsense, I am very persuaded on the veracity of this particular research. The research on people draws on very similar behaviour among other animals. Try rubbing your puppy's nose in the poo s/he drops on your living room carpet. You'll see 'disgust' immediately.
Michael Leonard Furtado
Doctor at University of Queensland
I can't but agree, Mr Lamb. I sense that Lisa's disgust has been somewhat 'dampened', if that's the word! My own interest in the matter is largely etymological. I actually prefer Lisa's 'g' to the 'j' because of its Latinate etymology. Even musicologically a 'g' string sounds rather more autentico than a 'j'; though the research being Teutonic probably permits for an alternative spelling. Against that, a 'j' string might be rather more taut...
Being not well versed in seminary Latin I consulted…
Read moreLisa Ann Kelly
retired
@ Linus: Oh. I am SO not ever going to abuse any dog in that way. What the heck kind of "research" are you advocating that involves punishment of young and innocent creatures?
And what kind of puppy evinces "disgust?" I find it interesting that you think a puppy would show "horror/contempt/outrage/loathing/nausea" and all the rest, rather than just pure shock and distress at being so callously disciplined.
Michael Leonard Furtado
Doctor at University of Queensland
The Animal Research Ethics Subcommittee would never agree to that (Whadya think, Cardinal Lamb?)
Linus Bowden
management consultant
Ah Lisa, you are catching on. Any such 'research' is "callous" because the puppy finds it disgusting. If you pushed your puppy's nose into a pile of diced steak, I assure you, the response will be 'delight' rather than disgust.
Linus Bowden
management consultant
Though I would love to be a fly one the wall while the Subcommittee debated the matter. :)
Adam Richards
Teacher
I almost threw up in my mouth. LOL.
Dale Bloom
Analyst
Please don't tell me taxpayer money was spent on this.
Sean Lamb
Science Denier
German taxpayer money, but not a lot. The authors probably have teaching positions although they are expected to do research as well. But since the quality of research in the psychological sciences is invariably poor or tendentious, this is not a particular unusual example.
Additional costs would probably be limited to buying the plastic insects and the vibrators.
There is reasonably high demand for students to undergraduate courses in these fields and in order to justify their academic status, the academic staff have to turn out research - or at least what passes for research in that field. It doesn't really do any harm and I presume all the participants enjoyed themselves
Dale Bloom
Analyst
I must confess I didn't bother reading the article again, and I must have missed the bit about only German female students being involved.
The title should actually read "Dirty but not down: how sexual arousal can dampen disgust in 90 female German students"
For a while there I thought Australian taxpayer money may have been spent on this piece of junk science.
Adam Richards
Teacher
I think if you are to comment on anything, you should take the time to read it properly.
Dale Bloom
Analyst
Personally, I would have thought there should have been a link to the "female-friendly erotic video", so everyone would know how the group of German female students got sexually aroused in the first place.
However, there isn’t such a link, and maybe the German female students weren’t sexually aroused after all.
Who knows.
Matt de Neef
Editor at The Conversation
Dale: there's a link in the third paragraph of the article to the original research paper. It's well worth a read. Therein you will also find the name of the particular "female-friendly erotic video" used in the study.
Dale Bloom
Analyst
So the female friendly erotic movie was “De Gast” produced by Christine le Duc, which is a company.
http://www.christineleduc.nl/?source=navi_top
That’s something, but it doesn’t give much information on whether the German female students were actually sexually aroused by watching the movie, or the extent of that sexual arousal.
It would be more interesting, and perhaps more relevant, to know what makes women sexually aroused, than it would be to know what makes women disgusted.
Sean Manning
Physicist
only yours ;)
Lisa Ann Kelly
retired
Your analogy between hot and heavy kissing and then disgust at using your kissee's toothbrush falls flat. I think we all know that a toothbrush can harbor loads of bacteria, and not the healthy kind found in one's mouth. Any toothbrush may contain tiny bits of food and the attendant hungry bacteria. To avoid using another's toothbrush is a smart move.
Better to write that you may kiss someone enthusiastically, but then not want to share their chewing gum.
Also, I find this article kind…
Read morePaul Savage
Theme Leader, Biotechnology at CSIRO
Lisa, it might have helped you if you had a quick look at the actual article. Appendix S1 lists the 16 "disgusting" behavioural tasks asked of the subjects of which one was sipping from a cup with an insect floating in juice. Some of the other acts were actually variants of what you suggested the authors should have done.
John Harland
bicycle technician
What if you were prepared to share the toothbrush after all the hot and heavy stuff? Seems likely to me.
Lisa Ann Kelly
retired
Paul, thank you for your comment. I do not have access to the "actual article," unfortunately.
I maintain still that chewing gum would have made for a more apt analogy. And I maintain also that an insect floating in a juice drink isn't a great test of one's tolerance for disgusting encounters. Too bad I missed out on the other 14 "tests."
Lisa Ann Kelly
retired
Hello, John. My threshold for tolerance of other peoples' germs is fairly high. I eat birthday cake after the birthday person has blown out all the candles (ever seen that filmed in slo-mo/time lapse photography? I have shared another person's gum. And I have been known, in the past, to share a toothbrush or two.
However, now I know better about the toothbrush sharing. And gum I would only share with a lover or best friend, if then. It is fun to speculate which sharing event most people would rate more "disgusting" when it comes to after-sex sharing. I would put my money on the toothbrush, any day of the week. And I would hazard a guess that it would be the owner of the toothbrush who objected.
Mike Stuart
jaffle-maker
Lisa Ann Kelly, semantics
Paul Dalgarno
Editor at The Conversation
Hi Lisa, not that this is your main point, which you make well, but the study Brendan's article discusses and reflects on is linked in the main text, and here again: http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0044111
Cheers!
Paul Savage
Theme Leader, Biotechnology at CSIRO
Lisa, it's an open access article (PLoS one). You just need to click the link given in the third paragraph. But for your benefit I have reproduced the list of behavioural tests below. The point of the research was not to see if the subjects would do really disgusting things but rather the relative acceptance of somewhat disgusting tasks in either a non-aroused or aroused state.
As Perceived -- In Reality
Read more1 take a sip of the juice with a large insect in the plastic cup--insect was made of plastic…
Lisa Ann Kelly
retired
Paul. Thank you so very much. You are so kind to type out the 16 tests in full. I do so appreciate it. Truly. I would have loved to have participated in these tests.
Linus Bowden
management consultant
I wonder how much this propensity to share toothbrushes - or other saliva - remains if both partners had orgasmed? My hypothesis would be that the disgust reflex returns very quickly with every extra second after both partners had orgasmed. I wonder if any research has tested this?
Paul Savage
Theme Leader, Biotechnology at CSIRO
Moving past the semantic differences of disgusting, revolting, or just icky, I do think there is some interesting research here. Previous studies have shown that sexual arousal reduces inhibitions and risk perception. This obviously has implications for public health issues like STD spread if people forgo condoms in "the heat of the moment", or anonymous sex in public places, for example. This current research is attempting to see if such risk tolerance or inhibition lowering extends beyond sexual…
Read moreGlenn Tamblyn
logged in via Facebook
Another area of research into Disgust is related to conservatism. Not just political conservatism, but all aspects of it. How each one of us will tend to show more conservative views and reactions in situations where our disgust level has been elevated. And how being more naturally a more 'disgustable' person can predispose us towards more conservative views.
There is a certain evolutionary sense to this. Our distant ancestors didn't have the luxury of our knowledge and tools. They had to make do with very simple methods for trying to avoid hazards in life. And a simple and visceral emotion like disgust is the ideal tool for making quick snap judgements about what might be hazardous to us. And being more conservative in our outlook on things is essentially a self-defense mechanism against hazard.
Alice Gorman
Lecturer in Archaeology at Flinders University
Things that cross bodily boundaries are often culturally seen as disgusting, but also dangerous - eg the common use of hair, nails, bodily fluids in sorcery. Classic Mary Douglas purity and danger stuff, and Kristeva's notion of abjection is also relevant. Skin on milk is disgusting in the same way.
Peter Hewson
Citizen
A few years ago I was at a social meeting where the last Tim Tam sat endearingly on the plate. I was about to save the host from having to return it to it's packet when another man grabbed for it, put it in his mouth, then back on the plate.
"Now it's mine". He said (this was in character, Michael liked his jokes).
I then picked it up and ate it much to the disgust of those present.
My argument was that later that night when we went to a 'venue' we'd all (those unattached anyway) happily exchange saliva with a starnager, via kissing, if we hoped that it might leave to 'something'. Essentially I saw no difference (and it never hurt to call Michael's bluff).
Linus Bowden
management consultant
Peter, I spent the first 3 decades of my life blissfully ignorant about "double dipping". The first time I ever heard about it was at a party where I was caught double dipping my half bitten Jatz biscuits in a dip. Somebody chastised me. I had no idea what they were talking about, but once they explained it to me, I immediately saw the guacamole bowl as a spittoon, and nearly heaved. I felt a similar disgust when informed of those studies that analysed bowls of free peanuts often provided by pubs…
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