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Michelle Grattan, Chief Political Correspondent at The Conversation, talks politics with politicians and experts.

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Labor's Julian Hill on employment, AI, Julian Assange and TikTok

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Labor’s Julian Hill on employment, AI, Julian Assange and TikTok

The federal budget gave a much-needed, but very modest, increase to those on JobSeeker and associated payments. However, it didn't address that other important issue of the unemployed: how to help as many JobSeekers as possible to get into work, whether full- or part-time. This will be canvassed in the government's coming white paper on employment. It's already, however, before a parliamentary inquiry…

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Word from The Hill: On the Voice, the Quad, and Indian PM Modi's visit

Word from The Hill: On the Voice, the Quad, and Indian PM Modi’s visit

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss whether Labor needs to panic about a polling decline in support for the Voice, the Quad meeting on skates, and Indian Prime Minister…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Greens' Max Chandler-Mather on the housing fund, rent freezes and migration

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Greens’ Max Chandler-Mather on the housing fund, rent freezes and migration

The government's planned Housing Australia Future Fund has hit a roadblock. Legislation for the $10 billion fund – the returns on which would be used to build social and affordable housing – is being blocked by an unusual alliance of the Coalition and the Greens. Max Chandler-Mather, who won the seat of Griffith in Brisbane from Labor's Terri Butler, has been under personal attack by the government…

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The day after the night before - Chalmers and Taylor on the budget

The day after the night before - Chalmers and Taylor on the budget

Will the budget make inflation worse? Are its boosts to welfare payments just the first step for the Labor government? Could the projected one-off surplus be followed by another one or more? What (if any) of the budget measures will the Coalition oppose? There's quite a bit about this budget that, as the saying goes, "only time will tell". In this podcast, Treasurer Jim Chalmers defends his budget…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: NDIA chair Kurt Fearnley on 'fundamental' reform of the disability scheme

Politics with Michelle Grattan: NDIA chair Kurt Fearnley on ‘fundamental’ reform of the disability scheme

The federal government is trying to contain the exploding cost of the landmark National Disability Insurance Scheme – especially difficult given the fears of vulnerable people who rely on it. National cabinet's decision last week to aim to reduce the cost increase from the current 14% annually down to 8% by 2026 received a sharp reaction from disability advocates. This financial year the NDIS will…

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Word from The Hill: Another rate rise, higher tax on cigarettes, and likely JobSeeker boost for over-55s

Word from The Hill: Another rate rise, higher tax on cigarettes, and likely JobSeeker boost for over-55s

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss the Reserve Bank’s Tuesday interest rate rise (this time 25 basis points), the 11th increase in a year. They also canvass a likely…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Labor MP Marion Scrymgour on the Voice and the need for a new NT jobs program

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Labor MP Marion Scrymgour on the Voice and the need for a new NT jobs program

With the Liberal Party formally opposing the Voice, Opposition Leader Peter Dutton last week kicked off his no campaign in Alice Springs. His claim that child sexual abuse is rife was quickly under attack from the government and others who accused him of politicking, using the issue as a political football. Marion Scrymgour, a former deputy chief minister in the Northern Territory, is the federal Labor…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Professor Marcia Langton on the Voice's powers and potential

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Professor Marcia Langton on the Voice’s powers and potential

Professor Marcia Langton holds the Foundation Chair of Australian Indigenous Studies at the University of Melbourne, and was co-author (with Professor Tom Calma) of the Indigenous Voice Co-design Process report to the Morrison government. She has been a fighter for rights and progress for Indigenous Australians for decades, and she's one of those at the centre of the yes campaign for the Voice. Her…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Simon Birmingham on the Voice, Aston, the Liberals, Uranium

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Simon Birmingham on the Voice, Aston, the Liberals, Uranium

The Liberals have formally decided to oppose the Voice. Peter Dutton has declared he will campaign against it, a high risk strategy when polls are showing a majority of Australians currently support a "yes" vote. Noel Pearson was scathing of the Liberal Party, calling the decision not to support the Voice "a Judas betrayal of our country". Moderate Liberal MP Bridget Archer will campaign for the "yes…

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Word from The Hill: Interest rate pause, Aston, Liberals looking for their voice on the Voice, Yunupingu, TikTok

Word from The Hill: Interest rate pause, Aston, Liberals looking for their voice on the Voice, Yunupingu, TikTok

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and Amanda Dunn, politics + society editor, discuss the Reserve Bank's pause (but for how long?) on interest rate hikes, the Aston byelection, the Liberals grappling with the Voice…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Lambie urges return of former employment program for Indigenous communities

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Lambie urges return of former employment program for Indigenous communities

Senator Lidia Thorpe's defection from the Greens changed the power dynamic in the Senate. Now the government needs two crossbenchers (and the Greens) to pass legislation opposed by the Coalition. Tasmanian Senator Jacqui Lambie and her colleague Tammy Tyrrell can provide those two votes, which puts them in a potentially strong bargaining position. Lambie has never been afraid to call things how she…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Michael Brennan on Australia's parlous productivity growth

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Michael Brennan on Australia’s parlous productivity growth

The Productivity Commission's nine-volume report has a tough central message. It says productivity policy has to focus on the areas that have proven the hardest in the past, rather than those where previously progress has been most readily achieved. One key take from the report is that Australia is performing poorly in growing its productivity. The commission makes recommendations across the policy…

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Word from The Hill: Reactions to AUKUS, next steps on the Voice, NSW election

Word from The Hill: Reactions to AUKUS, next steps on the Voice, NSW election

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn canvass the reactions, inside and outside Labor, to the AUKUS submarine agreement; the government and Coalition reaching a deal on the Voice…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Antony Green, Professor Andy Marks and Ashleigh Raper on the NSW election

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Antony Green, Professor Andy Marks and Ashleigh Raper on the NSW election

Voters in New South Wales are heading to the polling booths on March 25. For both Premier Dominic Perrottet and Labor leader Chris Minns, it is their first election as leader. The Coalition government has held power since 2011. Labor needs to gain a net nine seats to form majority government. If Labor wins, the party will be in power in every state and territory except Tasmania. There are 10 seats…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Chair of Retirement Income Review, Mike Callaghan, on reforming superannuation

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Chair of Retirement Income Review, Mike Callaghan, on reforming superannuation

Treasurer Jim Chalmers sparked a political row when he announced a tax hike on superannuation concessions for accounts with balances over $3 million, from 15% to 30%, to begin in 2025. Polling indicates the move has broad support from the public, although any change to super is always controversial. Opposition leader Peter Dutton has promised the change would be reversed by a Coalition government…

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Word from The Hill: Another rate rise; support for super tax hike; PM's India trip; Rugg V Ryan

Word from The Hill: Another rate rise; support for super tax hike; PM’s India trip; Rugg V Ryan

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss the tenth interest rate rise and Jim Chalmers' response, the polling reaction to the superannuation tax hike, Anthony Albanese's…

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Word from The Hill: Chalmers learns lesson in 'rule-in-rule-out' game

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As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss the government's decision to double the tax on big super account earnings, Jim Chalmers' blunder when quizzed about taxing family…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Greens leader Adam Bandt on trying to force Labor's hand on reform

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Greens leader Adam Bandt on trying to force Labor’s hand on reform

Adam Bandt aspired to power-sharing with a Labor government. That was never going to happen but, possessing the major slice of the balance of power in the Senate, the Greens have considerable potential muscle – at least in theory. In this podcast, we get a glimpse of the gap between Greens leader Adam Bandt's aspiration for ambitious reforms and the reality that the government is only giving concessions…

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Word from The Hill: Albanese at the National Press Club, Aston byelection, Super battles

Word from The Hill: Albanese at the National Press Club, Aston byelection, Super battles

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's Wednesday appearance at the National Press Club, where he spoke about security, broadly defined…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Frank Brennan on rewording Voice question

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Frank Brennan on rewording Voice question

Frank Brennan has been involved over decades in the big debates in Indigenous affairs. A Jesuit priest and an academic expert on the constitution, Brennan has advocated for recognising First Nations peoples in that document. Supplied/Frank Brennan, Author provided But he has concerns about the breadth of Anthony Albanese's proposed referendum question, arguing in his new book that its reference to…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Kate Chaney on life as a teal MP

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Kate Chaney was one of half a dozen new "teal" MPs elected to parliament last year, winning the previously solid Liberal seat of Curtin in Western Australia. "It's been a fascinating and steep learning curve over the last eight months," Chaney tells the podcast. "As a crossbencher, you really have to think very carefully about how you vote on every piece of legislation and try as much as possible to…

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Word from The Hill: Defence review goes to government; Dutton's apology for boycotting Sorry; Phil Lowe under fire

Word from The Hill: Defence review goes to government; Dutton’s apology for boycotting Sorry; Phil Lowe under fire

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss the landmark Defence Strategic Review, handed to the government on Tuesday, which Defence minister Richard Marles describes as the…

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Word from The Hill: Government should set date for Voice to start talking

Word from The Hill: Government should set date for Voice to start talking

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation's politics team. In this podcast Michelle and politics + society editor Amanda Dunn discuss the Reserve Bank's latest (but not last) interest rate rise, Lidia Thorpe's defection to the crossbench, which potentially benefits…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Senator Malarndirri McCarthy on Alice Springs and the Voice

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Senator Malarndirri McCarthy on Alice Springs and the Voice

Alcohol bans are being reimposed on Northern Territory Indigenous communities, as the federal and territory governments grapple with intractable problems in Alice Springs and elsewhere in the NT. The situation in Alice Springs and the surrounding communities has come into the national news at the same time as debate ramps up about this year's referendum for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament. In this…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Treasurer Jim Chalmers answers critics of his 'values-based capitalism'

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Treasurer Jim Chalmers answers critics of his ‘values-based capitalism’

Treasurer Jim Chalmers has rejected as "laughable" criticism he has turned his back on the Hawke-Keating reform era in his blueprint for "values-based capitalism". In this podcast Chalmers also reveals he spoke with Paul Keating while writing the essay, published in The Monthly. "Capitalism after the crises" looks at Australia's future following three international crises: the GFC, the pandemic, and…

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