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Michelle Grattan, Chief Political Correspondent at The Conversation, talks politics with politicians and experts.

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Politics Podcast: Cathy McGowan and Rebekha Sharkie on the role of community candidates

View from the crossbench: Cathy McGowan and Rebekha Sharkie on the role of community candidates

Independent Cathy McGowan and the Centre Alliance's Rebekha Sharkie share more in common than just sitting on the crossbench. The members for Indi and Mayo respectively have dug in to retain their seats, and they believe there is "a mood" in the community for alternative candidates. McGowan and Sharkie have given the government their confidence until the Wentworth byelection - after which they will…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Judith Troeth on the Liberal party's woman problem and asylum seekers

Politics podcast: Judith Troeth on the Liberal party’s woman problem and asylum seekers

Former Victorian Liberal senator Judith Troeth is no stranger to speaking out forthrightly on issues, even when that goes against her party's position. In this podcast, Troeth says the party should adopt quotas to rectify the "abysmally low numbers" of Liberal women in parliament. "We should have quotas, but not forever ... to get the numbers up". One of the group of moderates when she was in parliament…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Barnaby Joyce at his provocative best

Politics podcast: Barnaby Joyce at his provocative best

Barnaby Joyce has confirmed he could cross the floor on the federal legislation associated with the National Energy Guarantee. "Of course I could," he says in an interview with The Conversation. Joyce is out on the author's circuit for his just-released book Weatherboard and Iron, which reprises the personal saga that took him from deputy prime minister to backbencher, as well as canvassing life in…

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Politics podcast: Wayne Swan on Labor's byelection victories and beyond

Politics podcast: Wayne Swan on Labor’s byelection victories and beyond CC BY24.7 MB (download)

Incoming Labor national president Wayne Swan has made it clear he will have an assertive voice in the role, as the party moves towards next year's election. While many in the ALP would like action on party reform, Swan says bluntly it's not top of mind for him. "I made it very clear [in campaigning for the presidency] that party reform in the first instance was not my priority," he says. "My priority…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics Podcast: Dennis Atkins on the Longman byelection

Dennis Atkins on the Longman byelection

After an eight-week campaign, Super Saturday is finally here. There are five byelections being held, but the race in Longman is one of two nail-biter contests that could go either way. Dennis Atkins, the Courier Mail's national affairs editor, says the mood in Longman is one of political exhaustion and that the result is anybody's guess because of preference changes. But Atkins says the LNP and Prime…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics Podcast: Katharine Murphy 'On Disruption'

Katharine Murphy ‘On Disruption’

A recording of a conversation with Katharine Murphy, the Political Editor of The Guardian Australlia about her new book 'On Disruption'. Murphy's book is about the dramatic changes that have taken place in the media and their implications, and is published by Melbourne University Press. This conversation was hosted by Australian National University Crawford School of Public Policy and introduced by…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics Podcast: Tanya Plibersek on Labor's taxing times

Politics Podcast: Tanya Plibersek on Labor’s taxing times

Deputy opposition leader Tanya Plibersek talks on Anthony Albanese's Whitlam oration, Bill Shorten's unexpected announcement on rolling back company tax for medium sized firms, the "tough" Braddon and Longman byelections - and really fires up about mobile phones and over connected children.

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics Podcast: Attorney-General Christian Porter on a crowded agenda

Attorney-General Christian Porter on a crowded agenda

Attorney-General Christian Porter says the response to the consultations for the national apology to victims of child sexual abuse has been very strong with a total of 167 attendees at consultation sessions so far. "There are further consultations coming up in Ballarat, Melbourne, Bendigo, Newcastle and Sydney ... it is a very important process and is going very well," he said. Porter also says there's…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics Podcast: Brotherhood of St Laurence's Conny Lenneberg on Newstart, poverty and inequality

Brotherhood of St Laurence’s Conny Lenneberg on Newstart, poverty and inequality

The Brotherhood of St Laurence has underway a campaign with the slogan "Share the Pie" highlighting the inadequacy of the Newstart allowance. The Brotherhood is also arguing the social safety net more generally is fraying. Executive Director of The Brotherhood Conny Lenneberg spoke to The Conversation about the inequality created by the low level of Newstart, which hasn't been boosted for many years…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Michael McCormack on Barnaby's future, latte sippers and other matters

Michael McCormack on Barnaby’s future, latte sippers and other matters CC BY33.8 MB (download)

With yet another round of the Barnaby Joyce affair distracting the government, the next question will be whether the beleaguered MP runs again in his New England seat at the election. In this interview with The Conversation, Nationals leader and Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack pointedly avoids saying Joyce should do so. "That’ll be a matter for him and that’ll be a matter for the National party…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Anthony Albanese on Labor's National Conference

Anthony Albanese on Labor’s National Conference CC BY38.4 MB (download)

Labor is facing tough tests in coming byelections in its narrowly held seats of Longman in Queensland and Braddon in Tasmania. Later on, managing the ALP national conference will be a challenge for Bill Shorten who will be anxious to avoid damaging displays of division over controversial issues. Labor Frontbencher Anthony Albanese is putting on a confident face about the byelections. On the conference…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Dean Smith on the pros and risks of new religious freedom protections

Dean Smith on the pros and risks of new religious freedom protections CC BY25.8 MB (download)

The Liberal party is currently fighting fires on various fronts - from a revolt on the live sheep trade to preselection power struggles. Western Australia Liberal Senator Dean Smith is putting up another push, as he challenges the decision not to run Liberal candidates in the two WA byelections. In this podcast he also speaks about the need for rigorous debate on religious freedoms, diversity in the…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Mathias Cormann and Jim Chalmers on Budget 2018

Mathias Cormann and Jim Chalmers on Budget 2018

With the government's election focused budget released it's now a tax showdown between the two sides. Finance minister Mathias Cormann says the government is committed to the whole of their seven-year personal tax relief plan and is determined the three-part package not be broken up. Meanwhile, shadow finance minister Jim Chalmers says Labor is disappointed with the government's inflexibility on their…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Tim Colebatch on the 2018 budget

Tim Colebatch on the 2018 budget

From inside the lockup political and economic journalist Tim Colebatch speaks to Michelle Grattan about his assessment of the budget. He says the income tax cuts are "well targeted" and that he can't see any "significant negatives" from the budget. However Colebatch is "surprised the government hasn't made more effort to find other sources of compensating tax income or making bigger spending cuts in…

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Politics podcast: Chris Bowen on the budget and Labor's policies

Chris Bowen on the budget and Labor’s policies

Ahead of Tuesday's budget that will unveil the goverment's tax cut plans, the Coalition is painting Labor as the big taxing party, while the ALP is attacking the government's push to cut company tax for big business. Meanwhile the Business Council of Australia is taking its message to the public with a grassroots campaign. Shadow treasurer Chris Bowen tells The Conversation he accepts that big business…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Robert Kelly on the Korean summits

Politics podcast: Robert Kelly on the Korean summits CC BY27 MB (download)

Professor Robert E Kelly from the Department of Political Science and Diplomacy at Pusan University is pessimistic about how much the upcoming Korean summits will achieve this Friday. He told The Conversation that the Trump-Kim summit is likely "to be a bust" because the Americans aren't prepared for the negotiations, while the summit between the two Koreas is more important for issues of economic…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Clive Hamilton and Richard Rigby on Chinese influence in Australia

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Clive Hamilton and Richard Rigby on Chinese influence in Australia The Conversation, CC BY46.3 MB (download)

The Australia-China relationship is again in the headlines, with reports of strains between the two countries, resulting in federal ministers who want to visit finding it hard to get visas. China is reacting against the Australian government's rhetoric and especially its legislation, now before parliament, to combat foreign interference in Australian politics. Malcolm Turnbull plays down the issue…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Michael Keating on a Fair Share

Politics podcast: Michael Keating on a Fair Share The Conversation54.4 MB (download)

With the debate about equality heating up ahead of the federal election, Dr Michael Keating, the former head of three federal government departments, warns that while past economic reforms have served Australia well, there's a risk some people may be left behind if we don't "change the debate". A new book co-authored by University of Queensland Political Economy Professor Stephen Bell and Keating called…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: John Blaxland on Australia's expulsion of Russian spies

Politics podcast: John Blaxland on Australia’s expulsion of Russian spies

As Russian Ambassador Grigory Logvinov and Foreign Minister Julie Bishop trade verbal blows, ANU professor John Blaxland says the expulsion of two Russian spies from Australia will have a significant effect on Russia's espionage here. Blaxland told The Conversation that ideologically we're not seeing a new Cold War but the interconnectedness of the world means that activities by Russia create new vulnerabilities…

2 Hosts: Michelle Grattan and John Blaxland

Politics podcast: Sarah Hanson-Young on the Greens' Batman setback

Politics podcast: Sarah Hanson-Young on the Greens Batman setback CC BY28.3 MB (download)

Greens senator Sarah Hanson-Young has strongly backed party leader Richard Di Natale's push to purge those who leaked against candidate Alex Bhathal in the Batman byelection. Hanson-Young told The Conversation it was clear that party infighting played on voters’ minds. "I don't think there's a place for people who want to undermine our party like that. This selfish act by a small number of people in…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: the Batman byelection battleground

Politics podcast: the Batman byelection battleground

Byelections are not just important in the obvious sense of their results, but also for the confidence of political players. On Saturday, Labor and Bill Shorten face a major test in the Melbourne seat of Batman – which is traditionally Labor but with the Greens now threatening the ALP’s hold. A Labor loss would be a blow to the morale of the opposition. It would also open some debate within the party…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: the 'X factor' in the South Australian election

Politics podcast: the “X factor” in the South Australian election

The South Australian election will be held on March 17 – the same day as the federal byelection in Batman. Labor is pitching for a fifth term in South Australia, with former senator Nick Xenophon's SA-Best party injecting a high element of unpredictability into the result. Jobs and power prices are at the front of voters’ minds, while the gambling industry is investing heavily to try to fend off the…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan

Politics podcast: Jacinda Ardern on her political life

Politics Podcast: Jacinda Ardern on her political life CC BY38.6 MB (download)

Ahead of her second visit to Australia, New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern spoke to Michelle Grattan about the toughness of Australian politics, her ambitious policy plans, and the demands of being a young high-profile female leader that everyone wants to know about. On the New Zealand refugee offer, Ardern told The Conversation it "still obviously sits on the table but it's absolutely Australia’s…

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Politics podcast: Peter Dutton on balancing interests in home affairs

Politics Podcast: Peter Dutton on balancing interests in Home Affairs

The recently created home affairs department, headed by Peter Dutton, is a behemoth that its critics fear will compromise civil liberties. But Dutton argues there is no basis for such concerns. "There are no greater laws or arrest powers that have been introduced or a lessening of protections that have been provided for under this new arrangement," he tells The Conversation. On the growing area of…

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Politics podcast: Brian Howe on revisiting Henderson, poverty and basic income

Politics Podcast: Brian Howe on Revisiting Henderson, Poverty and Basic Income CC BY35.4 MB (download)

How to increase wages and tackle inequality are live political and economic debates. Many Australians are feeling the cost-of-living squeeze. Speaking ahead of a conference in Melbourne this week to revisit the landmark Henderson inquiry into poverty, conducted in the 1970s, former deputy prime minister Brian Howe says the targeted nature of Australia's contemporary social security system goes hand-in-hand…

1 Host: Michelle Grattan