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Michelle Grattan, Chief Political Correspondent at The Conversation, talks politics with politicians and experts.

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Labor defence spokesman Brendan O'Connor on China and Ukraine

Labor defence spokesman Brendan O'Connor on China, Ukraine

Ahead of the election, Scott Morrison is trying to wedge Labor on national security generally and China in particular. Opposition defence spokesman Brendan O'Connor tells this podcast: "National security is the the greatest priority of any federal government in order to protect the interests of the country and citizens. But we should not be politicising national security for base political purposes…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Government's 'shock and awe' assault on Anthony Albanese

Word from The Hill: Government’s ‘shock and awe’ assault on Anthony Albanese

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation politics team. This week she and politics editor Amanda Dunn discuss the government's torpedoed religious discrimination legislation. Scott Morrison thought he could press the issue and hopefully get the package through…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Trent Zimmerman has no regrets on Religious Discrimination rebellion

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Trent Zimmerman has no regrets on Religious Discrimination rebellion

Trent Zimmerman is one of the five Liberal moderates who crossed the floor to vote to amend the religious discrimination package to protect trans children. Scott Morrison's response was to abandon his legislation. Asked whether he regrets his decision to vote against the government Zimmerman, who crossed the floor on some other proposed amendments, says he was "standing up on a couple of points of…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: On Scott Morrison's battle for Religious Discrimination Bill

Word from The Hill: On Scott Morrison’s battle for Religious Discrimination Bill

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation politics team. This week Michelle and politics editor Amanda Dunn discuss the imbroglio over Scott Morrison's religious discrimination bill, approved by the Coalition on Tuesday after extensive debate but with dissidents…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Anthony Albanese on his ‘legacy’ – so far

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Anthony Albanese on his ‘legacy’ – so far

Critics say Anthony Albanese is still an unknown quantity, but in this podcast the opposition leader insists he already has a "legacy" and connections with communities around the country. "I have a relationship going back [from his time in government] to communities right around Australia during that period and relationships with the business community and with people in electorates from east to west…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: On Scott Morrison admitting some regrets

Word from The Hill: On Scott Morrison admitting some regrets

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation politics team. This week Michelle and Amanda Dunn discuss Scott Morrison's Press Club performance, when he spoke about "resilience" and faced some difficult questioning. Knowing how hostile many voters have become towards…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Peter Dutton on US combat assets in Australia, China, and Vladimir Putin

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Peter Dutton works on faster timetable for nuclear-powered subs

Defence Minister Peter Dutton says he would like to see more American combat capability based in Australia. Speaking on the "Politics with Michelle Grattan" podcast, Dutton says: "I'd be very open to it. I would be very, very happy to have that discussion with the US if they saw a strategic advantage in doing so." He says there is significant visiting by US airforce, navy and army forces (together…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Tanya Plibersek on parents' role in reducing violence against women

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Tanya Plibersek on parents’ role in reducing violence against women

As election year opens, Michelle Grattan speaks with Tanya Plibersek, Labor's spokeswoman on education and women, about the opposition's agenda in these two critical areas. Violence against women is one of our society's most pressing and intractable issues, and front and centre for Plibersek, who says there is a way to do better. "We do know so much about what we can do to reduce risks of violence…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Anthony Albanese's challenge is to define himself to voters

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Anthony Albanese’s challenge is to define himself to voters

As well as her interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where she discusses the news with members of The Conversation politics team. In this episode, politics + society Senior Deputy Editor Justin Bergman and Michelle canvass Anthony Albanese's address to the National Press Club this week, billed as the opposition leader seeking to outline…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: A very bad start to 2022 for Morrison, but can Albanese win?

Politics with Michelle Grattan: A very bad start to 2022 for Morrison, but can Albanese win?

In addition to her regular interviews with politicians and experts, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where Michelle discusses the news of the week with The Conversation's politics team. This week, Politics + Society senior deputy editor Justin Bergman and Michelle discuss the eventful start to the election year. With massive surges in COVID cases in most of the country…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Josh Frydenberg 'thinking about the budget' over Christmas

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Josh Frydenberg ‘thinking about the budget’ over Christmas

In her last podcast for the year, Michelle Grattan speaks with Treasurer Josh Frydenberg about the mid-year budget update, his optimism about the economy, and the election. Although Scott Morrison has the option of a March poll, Frydenberg says he is working on the assumption he'll deliver a budget on March 29, which would put the election in May. Frydenberg says he'll be "spending my Christmas period…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Government and Labor end 2021 on tenterhooks

Word from The Hill: Government and Labor end 2021 on tenterhooks

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. This week they look back at 2021 and forward to 2022, which will see an election by May. They discuss how the government and opposition are…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Sean Kelly and Anne Tiernan on election year

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Sean Kelly and Anne Tiernan on election year

In this podcast Michelle Grattan speaks with Sean Kelly and Anne Tieran about where the political battle stands as we look to the 2022 federal election. Kelly, a former staffer to then prime ministers Julia Gillard and Kevin Rudd, has just written The Game: A Portrait of Scott Morrison. Anne Tieran, adjunct professor at Griffith University, has co-edited the newly-released book The Oxford Handbook…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Adam Bandt on hopes for a dozen Greens senators and a 'power-sharing' parliament.

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Adam Bandt on his hopes for the Greens to have a dozen senators in the next parliament

Greens leader Adam Bandt is hopeful his party could have 12 senators in the next parliament. Only three of the party's nine senators are up for re-election (in Victoria, Western Australia and Tasmania). So, assuming they hold their seats, with possible wins in South Australia, Queensland and NSW there is the opportunity to bring the total to a dozen, he says. Bandt says that in 2019, 10% of Australians…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Labor's climate policy and the Liberals' fight for Warringah

Word from The Hill: Michelle Grattan on Labor’s climate policy and Liberal’s fight for Warringah

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. This week Michelle and politics editor Amanda Dunn discuss Labor's newly announced climate policy, with its target of 43% emissions reduction…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Politicians condemn bad behaviour, and then behave badly

Word from The Hill: Politicians condemn bad behaviour, and then behave badly

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. This week they discuss the just-released Jenkins Report on workplace culture in Parliament House. This was commissioned after allegations…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Jenny McAllister on domestic violence

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Jenny McAllister on domestic violence

Labor has announced that in government it would appoint a family, domestic and sexual violence commissioner and also fund 500 new community sector workers to help women at risk or in crisis. Labor spokeswoman Jenny McAllister says more staff are desperately needed. "I visited a service last week in western Sydney that said that over the last year they'd helped around 1200 women who were seeking their…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Christmas can't come too soon for Morrison

Word from The Hill: Christmas can’t come too soon for Morrison

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. As parliament is in its final sitting weeks for the year, the religious discrimination bill was put to the coalition party room. Concerns…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Liberal Dave Sharma on 2030 target

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Liberal Dave Sharma on 2030 target

Liberal backbencher Dave Sharma, a former diplomat, is an up-and-comer in his party and one of its moderate voices. Holding the progressive electorate of Wentworth, where formerly Malcolm Turnbull was the member and climate change is a significant issue, Sharma was among those Liberal MPs who pressed Scott Morrison on the 2050 target before Glasgow. In this podcast Sharma discusses climate policy…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: On Morrison's character ratings

Word from The Hill: On Morrison’s character ratings

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. This week they discuss Morrison's fall in ratings on character qualities in the latest Newspoll, published in The Australian . The poll ranks…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Chris Bowen says Labor's climate policy will be 'realistic and ambitious'

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Chris Bowen says Labor’s climate policy will be ‘realistic and ambitious’

With the Glasgow conference nearly over and the government promising to release its climate policy modelling before parliament resumes later this month, eyes are turning to Labor for its long-awaited alternative. Climate change spokesman Chris Bowen says the policy will be both "realistic and ambitious" – which of course neatly embraces the debate within Labor about how far to differentiate itself…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Scott Morrison has decided electric cars won't threaten Aussie weekends

Word from The Hill: Scott Morrison has decided electric cars won’t threaten Aussie weekends

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. Scott Morrison is gearing up for the election in the first half of 2022. As the country emerges from COVID constraints, the PM is trying…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Scott Morrison's trip blown up by French grenade

Word from The Hill: Scott Morrison’s trip blown up by French grenade

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. Scott Morrison's trip to the G20 summit in Rome and COP26 in Glasgow, from which he returns early Thursday, was overshadowed by the drama…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Keith Pitt on the climate plan and coal's future

Politics with Michelle Grattan: Keith Pitt on the climate plan and coal’s future

Resources minister Keith Pitt might have been a "no" when the Nationals debated the government's climate plan but he was a winner in the deal struck between Scott Morrison and the Coalition's minor partner. He has been restored to cabinet, just months after Barnaby Joyce relegated him to the outer ministry. The coal industry faces a bleak future as the world tackles global warming. But Pitt, a forthright…

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Politics with Michelle Grattan: Scott Morrison's (thin) climate plan for Glasgow

Word from The Hill: Scott Morrison’s (thin) climate plan for Glasgow

As well as Michelle Grattan’s usual interviews with experts and politicians about the news of the day, Politics with Michelle Grattan now includes "Word from The Hill", where all things political will be discussed with members of The Conversation’s politics team. In this week's episode, they canvass the government's plan, released on Tuesday, to get to net-zero emissions reduction by 2050. It relies…

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